Friday, January 25, 2013

Another Day in Politics

I see our Council Diversity Champion, Cllr John Worrow, fresh from his much-publicised and widely reported BBC resignation and resurrection of Tuesday, has announced on Twitter today, that he will be challenging KCC Cllr Mike Jarvis, for a County Council seat in Birchington in May. Is there now anyone in Thanet politics, outside his immediate circle, he hasn't labelled as 'Homophobic' at one time or another?

I'm sure that the good voters of Birchington will turn out in their thousands to congratulate and support John on his popular platform of 'anti-heterocentrism.'

I'm rather wondering where Cllr Worrow's independent colleague, Cllr Dr.Jack Cohen stands on this issue, as he's been silent, since the sudden and dramatic departure of Cllr Ian Driver from TIG, earlier this month.


You may have read elsewhere that Conservative councillor, Zita Wiltshire, has now decided to sit as an independent.

Cllr Bob Bayford, Leader of the Conservative Group at TDC, has made the following statement in response to Cllr Wiltshire’s decision:

 “Cllr Wiltshire has been a valued member of the Conservative Group for many years, working hard for the people of St Peter’s, Broadstairs and Thanet. We wish her well for the future.”

33 comments:

Anonymous said...

Given the success of TIG's campaign in the Westgate District by-election, Jarvis must be quaking in his boots!

Anonymous said...

Sounds to me that the conservatives have gone into self destruct. Who will be next one could ask?

Anonymous said...

In last weeks IOTG Jarvis was a Margate county councillor - what's he doing in Birchington? Surely he,s not worried about a certain Mr Scobie beating him? Bad luck Birchington - he was useless here, you can have the deserter.

Anonymous said...

Mike Jarvis represents Margate on KCC not Birchington.

I think Worrow knows he won't win in Birchington, but he probably knows that he will split the vote enough to let UKIP win!

Anonymous said...

Perhaps in the name of equality and diversity we could have a heterocentric pride rally in Birchington to even things up a bit.

Anonymous said...

Combination of poor selection of candidates and poor leadership, but then the same could be said of Labour after the Nottingham and Driver sagas. Driver currently leads in the defection league table having changed sides twice since being elected first as Labour in 2011.

As you say, Anon, whoever next.

Anonymous said...

2:16 surely this is a Leadership issue as it is plain for all to see that the Conservatives are on a self destruct road, fragmented and lacking strong leadership, one might say any leadership. Well done to Cllr Wiltshire whose sole aim is the care of her Residents.

Simon Moores said...

Mike Jarvis may be a Margate Councillor at present but has been selected to run in Birchington, next time, because it's where he lives.

Anonymous said...

simon - Margate was good enough for Mr Jarvis last time, whatever happened to loyalty to your electorate. In any case, there are loads of councillors who don't live in their ward, are they all going to change now too?

Anonymous said...

What you actually mean Simon, is he thinks Birchington is a safer seat

Anonymous said...

Mr Worrow says in the local paper that he will be going " sooner rather than later".... No time like the present John boy - do us all a favour.

Simon Moores said...

I don't see any problems withe leadership. Cllrs have opinions like anyone else and sometimes these clash with the Group. Some put-up with the democratic decision and occasionally choose to go their own way instead.

I can't speak for Mike Jarvis, it's his choice where he chooses to run and if it's closer to home then its his prerogative.

Anonymous said...

Simon I hope you're right with supporting your Leader. Very admirable. There does comes a time when a change is vital. You appear to have reached that point. The ship is foundering. We never hear anything about what the local conservatives stand for. Under the current arrangement they may as well not be there. How about you as a new leader or maybe your deputy leader taking over? Could either of you hold the group together do you think.

Simon Moores said...

Keep trying Michael, you are beginning to sound like a stuck record. The Conservatives stand for responsible and cost effective local government and support for the local economy. The kind where budgets balance, services are delivered efficiently and distractions, such as diversity and gay marriage are not stage managed by a minority to the extent that little or no Council business of any real value takes place.

Michael Child said...

Hey Simon, I guess it was the “There does comes a time when a change is vital” that made you fink of me. Sorry I can’t put mi and up, not enough esses, big Mac’s winds of change?

But hell since you have started replying to me even when I don’t comment I had better say something about it, don’t want you finding hairs of the old palms do we?

Senior council resigns the group and the group don’t say why, not good is it? Doesn’t exactly inspire the old trust and confidence, does it?

There does goes Zita why nobody nose.

Anonymous said...

Cost effective and support for the local economy!!. Please explain. All we see currently is the Conservative Group falling apart at the seams, no public voice whatsoever, many our your colleagues being an absolute disgrace, and a history of lining your own pockets. Is that what you mean by local economy? Why cant you see what everyone can see.

Simon Moores said...

Define what you mean by falling apart at the seams please? We have a perfectly healthy Cabinet and I'm part of it. Certainly there are other Councillors involved in all groups but administrations and policies are directed by Cabinet, both in power and in opposition and I'm unclear what you are expecting? There's no election around the corner and so the last manifesto remains current.

To be frank, I'm not really interested in Thanet's sordid political past with figures from both Parties. It's the present and future we need to worry about.

And if Zita steps aside, that's her decision for personal reasons and before some kind of statement could be issued, as I told Michael, we had to have her resignation officially rather than reported.

Anonymous said...

Simon your Freudian delusion says it all. "We have a perfectly healthy cabinet and I'm part of it". No for your information the cabinet is not perfectly healthy and you are not a part of it. You lost control when your group started to fall apart at the seams.

When you say policies are "directed by Cabinet", you fail to say that both Cabinet (shadow cabinet in your case) should be representing the views of the majority of your group, not just four Councillors. You appear to be treating the rest of your group with total contempt and arrogance. Perhaps that is why Cllr Wiltshire decided enough was enough. Smacks of very poor leadership. You are quite right that it is the present and future that you should be worrying about. Unfortunately the behavior of too many of your colleagues, Gregory, Tomlinson, the Cat Killer etc keep dragging us back to the past and for some inexplicable reason, you always run to their defense.

Simon Moores said...

Well certainly wins the prize of the daftest and most poorly argued comment on the thread so far; one that shows a rather limited grasp of how our politics actually works in practise.

If every issue demanded consultation then nothing would ever get done. Rather, what actually happens is that items coming before Council are discussed in Group meetings to acheve a collective view. Also, particularly contentious issues, such as night flights, are debated internally. Everything else invariably involves execution against the manifesto committments or plans or the Cabinet or shoud I say the shadow cabinet determining strategy and direction.

Simon Moores said...

I should add that committees play an important role and that principally how members become directly involved in process, for example, planning, scrutiny, governance and audit, licensing etc. However Cabinet or shadow cabinet mirrors the Westminster model in the executive role.

I'm sure you can find a good reference book on Amazon if that still remains unclear

Michael Child said...

Good grief Simon, “executed against the manifesto commitments” could be a vote winner. I am inclined to say; by George he’s got it. Spare a thought for those of who read what you say.

Anonymous said...

Simon, unfortunately, you have just shown your true colours again. You should read 8:40pm again, carefully this time. The point was that cabinet (or shadow cabinet) should listen to their respective Members which you have now agreed with.

Simon Moores said...

Can't say I really concede much more beyond agreeing its a Shadow Cabinet and that the nature of the Group means that important issues or the business of Council meetings involves discussion. Otherwise, as I stated, Cabinet or Shadow Cabinet is an executive role, which has very little day to day contact with the members per se. Again, much like the Westminster model.

And "Yes", the cabinet is quite healthy at present, its business as usual, regardless of any decision that Zita has taken and "No" my colleagues are not treated with total contempt and arrogance

Anonymous said...

This is all somewhat tiresome. Cllr Wiltshire is a lovely lady and although sad to hear of her resignation, I wish her the best in her endeavours. As for worrow, I recall he stated on twitter 'That's all folks!' Clearly it appears not so.. Will he please make up his mind instead of moving chess pieces around a board. Perhaps someone else can shead some light as I do not think even himself knows what on earth he is doing. Everyone is fed up with hearing about homophobia!

John Holyer said...

The Michael Child comments on here do not sound like Michael. The tone, syntax and vocabulary are unusual for something writen by Michael.

John Holyer said...

I am writing to seek advice and guidance. What is meant by the term 'hetrocentic'; is this used as an epithet; and is there a converse term 'homocentric'?

Bernie said...

I love reading the comments you get on here, but to pick up on what was seemingly a throw-away comment and present it in a more serious light, how DOES anyone not familiar with all the comings and goings and reputations and past/present actions etc etc of local politics and Cllrs actually become involved in local politics?

I think it can only be a good thing if more people cared about local politics, but looking in from the outside upon all you people who know what you're talking about, are familiar with the workings and nuanaces of TDC and procedure etc etc, it seems to be a 'closed shop' and difficult to break in to it all and understand the 'in jokes' and comments made.

Can anyone suggest a starting point, for someone who is interested in local politics? It's not even easy to nail colours to a mast nowadays as to which party is closest to one's own beliefs. Contact with local Cllrs give an impression of how they work and treat constituents and what contact I have had with my local politicians has not impressed in the slightest. These would all be Labour btw. x



Anonymous said...

In defence of Worrow, he is evenly balanced, he has a chip on both shoulders.

Anonymous said...

John, I can find no such word what i can find is eccentric, "odd or capricious behaviour or appearance,not placed centrally,a disc fixed eccentrically on a revolving shaft for changing rotary to to-and-fro motion.
Grey Party, Conservative Party, Independent Party, Thanet independent Group,I dont know about Hetero which the oxford Dictionary quotes as "other, different" guess that sums Worrow up he is certainly different,

Time to go John, Politics are not for you.

Simon Moores said...

Bernie

The best thing you can do is joining your local association of whatever Party you are inclined to. Thanet is split North and South and so for both Labour and Conservatives you would start there. If you need my help please send me an email and will direct you further.

Michael Child said...

John my comments here were a response to Simon's comment at 5.37 hence the change of style, I was just pointing out that if I wanted to comment anonymously I would make a better job of it.

Anonymous said...

When does your former Tory Leader Ezekiel come up for his criminal trial?

Simon Moores said...

I'm informed this will take place in February 10:05