Tuesday, December 13, 2011

Christmas Post

Now I had thought that the rather grubby folded scrap of paper I received in the council mailbag tonight was from a local 'eccentric' having a joke at my expense but having cross-checked, apparently not.

In particular, I liked the ruled exercise-paper touch and the subtle reminder of who the new 'Leader' is in the signature; as an afterthought perhaps, in case it had escaped my attention.

I suppose a Christmas card is out of the question. Anyway I plan to frame this piece of local history and give it a place of honour in my shed.

It's all part of the cost-cutting exercise I guess. We axed councillor business cards earlier in the year to save money but this new economy drive at TDC clearly involves the loss of Basildon Bond  personal headed stationery.

PS. While the note of thanks is appreciated,  I'm still waiting for someone to come and remove me from my office and I've stayed in waiting!

53 comments:

Tom Clarke said...

One would like to say it is unbelievable, but sadly it simply confirms what one suspected on the new leader's credentials.

The note, very reminscent of those my schoolmaster father used to get to explain some lad's absence from school, is hardly business like and certainly Clive would not appear to have a copy of Debrett's Correct Form. I would have thought at the very least you were entitled to be addressed as Councillor or just Simon if he wished to be informal.

Clearly the lower deck have taken command of the ship so do we now head for Pitcairn?

tony flaig bignews said...

Good to see Hart economising on stationary, perhaps this is a new grass roots attempt to show that labour is prepared to move away from all that polished meaningless PR of New Labour days.

He could of just emailed you surely.

Anonymous said...

OMG This person now represents Thanet to Government,the Media and Businesses etc.

Aaaaaargh!

Peter Checksfield said...

How childish to publish a private letter online. I thought you were above that Simon.

DrM. said...

Peter, it's hardly a private letter, it's a statement of public record removing me from a cabinet role at TDC.

Anonymous said...

Peter obviously doesn't see anything wrong with the actual letter then!

Couldn't make it up.

Michael Child said...

Simon neat legible handwriting, a courteous written note rather than a printed circular, I am wondering just who is embarrassing who here.

Readit said...

Simon, now you are a back-bencher it will be interesting to see if you still think all is rosy in the Thanet DC garden. Or will Clive Hart & Co be responsible for the immediate collapse of Planet Thanet?

It would be good if you and your colleagues, who are labelled as the "intelligent" councilors could learn to work with the new administration for the good of Yhanet as a whole.

Will Scobie said...

To be fair to Councillor Hart there was a reason for this Simon.

After Councillor Hart was voted in as Leader there was a fifteen minute adjournment of Council. In those 15 minutes Councillor Hart had to sign several documents and write letters to the Deputy Leader and Cabinet informing them that their duties were no longer required and then give out the new roles to his new Cabinet. I.e. work out the procedure, sign several documents, write four letters to the outgoing Cabinet, and then inform the new Cabinet of their roles.

If you had been present Simon you would have known that this was not Clive's fault and that time dictated the protocol. Perhaps in future more preparation needs to be given to this moment than as occurred this time.

1 o'clock Rob said...

How bizarre... the whole thing is just really weird. The type of paper and the folding, the way he writes his name at the top as if it constitutes an "address", the "Dear Simon Moores" when "Dear Councillor" or simply "Dear Simon" would have been more correct, the swiftness that he gets to the point followed by the "thankyou for your service" all finished off with (LEADER), notice the capitalisation!

I'm pretty sure it would be a letter analysers wet dream to get to what is hiding within the text!

Will, your answers sound just like excuses, even given the time restraints Clive could have made a much better job of it all... I mean how hard is it to find plain A4 paper? Or even to just word the whole thing better?

So Simon with the obvbious re-shuffle at cabinet level have you been ousted from all your previous duties?

Anonymous said...

10.08 If you can't see a problem here then I really hope you're not in any way involved in running Thanet. We've got enough disappointments as it is.

The vote was on Thursday and this is Monday.

Slow too!

And 10.12 Other Leaders managed to do it properly.

Ren Wood said...

See the dubious trio of Michael, Peter and Readit leap to the defence of LEADER Hart. Frankly I have seen better notes written by private soldiers from the Zulu wars reproduced in an excellent book 'The Red Soldier.' Modest educations and in appalling conditions yet still superior in presentation and literary content than that of the leader of TDC.

Will Scobie said...

This was only a piece of procedure, and is not any kind of official letter from the Leader of the Council.

The problem here has only come because Simon was not present at the Council meeting. The other former members of the Cabinet knew the time constraints, but because Simon was absent the letter that was drafted in haste became the letter that by provision had to be given to him. His colleagues stated at the beginning of the meeting that Simon would be arriving late because of the weather, but unfortunately he was unable to attend and so this is where the misunderstanding appears to have come from.

Anonymous said...

Peter, I would suggest that you are inclined to publish on your blog rather more private things than letters, somethings indeed that cause offence to some who visit the site.

Anonymous said...

Well Simon, I for one will be sorry that you are not in some way involved in the decision making process at Cecil Sq.
Although at times i have disagreed with your approach on some matters,agreed with many and agreed to disagree on some, you have always tried to do your level best, something sadly missing from your colleagues.
This council desperately needs some clear thinking minds up front to steer a path through the coming months of sustained pressure, I can only hope that Clive is up to the job and has at least some idea of where Thanet should be going.

Thanet unlike other areas of the UK, has such a massive amount of real potential just waiting to be tapped into, Bayford was never really going to set the world on fire if were honest, clueless at best. Clive for all his past faults and indiscressions may just have the personality and prescence to get things moving....... as ever FINGERS CROSSED !!

Anonymous said...

I would be interested to know if
other former cabinet members received something similar. If Will is right and several letters were written may I suggest that someone dictated that letter and no guesses of the identity of the the little weasel who would have taken great pleasure in being curt and insulting and adding to the dissension been the two parties. Don't worry, he'll bite Clive when he's not expecting it.

Peter Checksfield said...

Nice try 11:02 / disgruntled Tory, but the difference is that any photos on my blog were taken with the intention of being on there. Just yesterday I photographed two naked Thanet stunners, but only one of the models is on my blog as the other one wanted things kept private.

I've often accused Hart & co of petty sniping when in opposition instead of discussing what's best for Thanet, seems they aren't unique in this.

Tom Clasrke said...

Will, admire your loyal defence of your leader but, whatever the haste, just some common curtesy like proper form of address would have been nice. Such a note does not exactly inspire confidence, especially in these days when most of us have access to PCs and keyboards.

As Simon only received this note several days after the meeting there is really no excuse for its presentation.

Anonymous said...

Peter

Other than the unending stream of facetious remarks across Thanet's blogs and the exploitation of vulnerable girls to remove their clothes in public place so you can photograph them, do you actually have a job or do you sit at home while the rest of us subsidise your unusual hobby?

Anonymous said...

Anon 9:03, it is called art I believe and I would suggest the facetious remarks are deliberate wind ups. They show a certain inconsistence of view suggesting the author seeks always to differ.

Of course, when challenged, Peter usually falls back on his 'peace and love' proclamation. Have to agree with you about the funding of his 'hobby' for have often wondered about that myself. Perhaps it is from a similar source as the hitherto funding of a certain leader's leaflet delivering and swimming.

DrM. said...

I see that Michael is attempting to contrast the note I received with another from Abraham Lincoln and I hadn't realised that he held the new Leader in such regard or indeed, political equivalence.

I'm looking forward to seeing him wear a stove pipe hat!

Michael Child said...

Simon at first I thought this post was supposed to be humorous, I would have left my thoughts about it as a comment here, but as you know I couldn’t have included the letter or the video.

My feelings for Clive Hart haven’t formed yet, he just hasn’t had time to do much yet.

You have to appreciate I am a local businessman trying to survive in the current economic climate, many of my problems relate to previous administrations at different levels of government, Labour and Conservative.

What I want for Thanet is to see both political parties try and resolve the problems we have, this needs an effective opposition, criticising and advising on decisions, not stationary and hats.

Peter Checksfield said...

I get an annual grant from the Arts Council anon. Hope that's OK with you?

Anonymous said...

In other words, you don't do any work and are kept by us tax payers, after all where does the Arts Council get its money. Now we know how you can walk, cycle, frequent nudist beaches and blog frequently all in the working day.

What exactly do you do to justify this grant?

Peter Checksfield said...

Anon, you can't even bring yourself to tell us your name. So I'm certainly not going to discuss my art, career or financial status with a nobody (particularly a nobody who doesn't appreciate great art).

End of discussion.

John Holyer said...

Simon,

The note that was passed to you is a crass example of bad manners and incompetence.

It is revealing to see that the note's authors prefer to devote words defending their silly action rather than getting it correct in the first place. Not even the Clogthorpe District Council would behave in such a boorish manner. Neither would the average 5th Former.

John Holyer said...

To anonymous at 11:02,

You may consider this an outrageous suggestion, but if Peter's site offends you then do not visit it. You will have noticed the Google caveat.

Anonymous, I hope that you do not subscribe to the erroneous belief that we all of us have some kind of right not to be offended.

A Nobody said...

What's in a name, Peter, for it means nothing unless associated to an identifiable person.

I merely observed, following on from the earlier anon at 9:03, that your response confirmed you live off the tax payer. As to whether what you do is art I cannot say having never seen any of it.

Returning to the thread, having been involved in maintaining law and order from the mid 50's to 70's, I would say it is far worse today. At least when I started all young men did military service and that in itself created a far more disciplined society.

K. N. Ickers said...

John, my comment was made because Peter accused Simon of publishing something private. My point was that he does the same.

No, I am not offended by his site for I have never even visited it. I simply know its content from his frequent references to it and nudity. Not my scene but if that's what turns him on, so be it.

As he once said himself, if you want scantily dressed top totty there are far better sites than Naked in Thanet. You only have to glance round Asda to realise just how scary that title could be.

Anonymous said...

No he doesn't. If you actually looked at his site you'd know that.

John Holyer said...

To K.N. Ickers,

My apologies, I misunderstood you.

K. N. Ickers said...

I see Peter's echo is active again, but, to respond, I do not have to look at pictures of nude ladies, some of which appear on side bars of other blogs linking to Naked in Thanet, to consider them an abuse of privacy.

Personal opinion I agree, but one I am quite entitled to hold.

Peter Checksfield said...

Explain: How are they "an abuse of privacy" when I've been given permission? They're not paparazzi pics.

Anonymous said...

Peter, that's like saying that some poor demented soul you just stabbed gave you permission to kill them. Try that on the judge.

Peter Checksfield said...

Comparing artful, consential & legal nude photography to stabbing someone to death? Erm, keep taking those tablets......

John Holyer said...

to anonymous at 15:11,

Arrant nonsense. You are conflating the issues. Where do processional fit into your thinking.

John Holyer said...

Oops! missed out the word 'models' after professional.

Anonymous said...

Fortunately 'processional' features nowhere in my thinking but, going on to your clarification about professional models, surely that is the point. As Peter has told us before, these ladies are not professionals and do not even get paid for sitting about in the nod so he can practice his camera angles.

Truth of the matter it is probably exploitation of these unfortunate females who think there is something glamorous about posing for a photographer, however small fry he might be.

John Holyer said...

to anonymous at 17:51,

The truth is that some women do indeed find it glamorous to pose for a photographer, painter or sculptor whether or not they are paid a fee. I do not know why this should be the way only that it is. Are you suggesting that Peter tricks, corrupts or harms his models? If so so then I suggest that this would be a calumny on your part. Unless you have evidence to the contrary.

Anonymous said...

John, you really are going too far with this and nowhere in anything I have said is there any suggestion that Peter tricks or coerces these women.

It is not something I find particularly savoury but, as I said much earlier, whatever turns him on. Where I would disagree, as I also would with Emin on much of her so called work, is on it constituting art.

I suggest we leave it there and accept we probably have differing opinions.

Michael Child said...

Couple of thoughts here anon, if you find the human form offensive then I would recommend therapy.

The other one is there is that Peters work is defiantly art, possibly marginally erotic art, but definitely not in any way pornographic. Anon it has occurred to me that you may not be able to tell the difference, which perhaps it may help you to understand, is the difference between using the feather and using the whole chicken.

John Holyer said...

to anonymous,

You said earlier, "Truth of the matter it is probably exploitation of these unfortunate females who think there is something glamorous about posing for a photographer, however small fry he might be."

It was to this post that I was replying. I got the impression from this that you were accusing Peter of exploiting these unfortunate females. You assure that I was wrong. So be it.

Anonymous said...

John there is a huge difference between tricks, corrupts or harms and exploitation. I do think the vanity of these unfortunate souls is exploited, but that does not mean that they are tricked, certainly not corrupted nor harmed.

A professional model knows what she is doing and it is a career. Some ordinary, not especially attractive female could conceivably be flattered when approached by a seemingly professional photographer to pose. That, in my book, is close to exploitation, but it is not criminal, though I think Mary Whitehouse might have seen it differently.

Peter Checksfield said...

You certainly seem to know a lot about my model's looks & the way I work considering you've "never seen" my site, but define "ordinary" & "attractive". Surely this is in the eyes of the beholder? Certainly I find those plastic looking "professional" models rather unattractive, & I've even turned down those who've have had surgical enhancements & overdo the fake tan, even though they offer to get naked for me for free. The majority of the fan-mail I receive is from other women, who I guess "get" my work more.

In addition, (a) Several of my models have gone on to make careers out of modelling (a good example is "Thorn", who did her first nude photoshoot for me & is now one of the highest paid "alternative" models in the UK), & (b) Many of the models become good friends, & often model for me again several years later ("Kirsty" from my latest photoshoot first modelled for me 4 years ago & has become a dear friend, despite us never even meeting until the day of her first photoshoot). I doubt very much if any of those feel "exploited", either at the time or in retrospect.

Of course, you probably know all this, & are just a nameless troll who can't stand the idea of other people actually enjoying life.

John Holyer said...

to anonymous at 13:57,

I suggest the your next step is to canvass women in general and models in particular for their opinions. Some of whom might find your comments patronising.

Anonymous said...

John, I am not some white knight galloping to the rescue of women who pose for pictures. It is not something I find particularly endearing to me, but, as I said, it is not illegal.

I found Peter's term an 'alternative' model, interesting. Alternative to what, a proper model I presume. Oh, and Peter you really should be careful about calling people you do not know a troll. Who knows I might pop out from under a bridge you are crossing one of these days.

Anyway, it is Christmas so be happy and if both of you, Peter and John, want to pose clad only in tinsel with bells on your dangly bits, be my guest. Just don't send me copies of the snaps.

Peter Checksfield said...

Troll, an alternative to the type of models in the magazines that you "read"...

Keep enjoying my art, I'll be adding more to my blog daily for at least the next 30 days. : )

John Holyer said...

To Anonymous at 18:32,

I inferred from my first glance at your post that you were inviting Peter and Me round as your guest to pose before you naked and pejazzled. However, upon further study I concluded that this was probably not the case.

Women are constantly pestering me to appear before them naked. However, I feel compelled to refuse for fear of making them over excited.

Anonymous said...

No erectile disfunction then, John. You keep exciting those ladies.

Still doing the silly names I see, Peter. For someone who preaches peace and love you really do have a nasty little mean streak in you. And there was me passing on festive good cheer.

Enjoy your art! You really would think your ship had come in if you ever got let loose with your camera down Tanzimat Street in Nicosia. Any Redcap readers will now fall about laughing.

John Holyer said...

To anonymous at 20:27,

As far as Nicosia goes I can only recall Ledra Street. But I remember well the Amazon Bar in Hero Square in Limassol. I had some happy times in Cyprus.

Peter Checksfield said...

If your "good cheer" is calling my women "the alternative to models" then you can keep it (anyone who insults women because of the way they look really does know what a "nasty little mean streak" is).

Anyway, I need to edit some photos & then continue the research for the eagerly anticipated Showaddywaddy feature on my other blog, so I'm outta here.

DrM. said...

Probably time to draw a line under this somewhat bizarre, off topic exchange!

What we have learned so far, is that Peter appears to be subsidised by the Arts Council to help local girls remove their kit in public places as a novel form of creative expression supported by the taxpayer and inthe name of art.

A number of readers don't share his interest in the female form but then Peter and his lady friends are perfectly entitled to express themselves in this artistic manner and the popularity of his website proves, without any shadow of doubt, that his artistic passion is shared by a wide and appreciative audience.

I suppose a number of readers are more than slightly envious because they didn't think of it first!!

Anonymous said...

Shame, Simon, for there were John and myself about to embark on a trawl of imperial shady bars and streets of ill repute. On second thoughts, probably just as well to call it a day before one of us coughs to something we might regret.